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     David Goodwin (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 208.104.adsl.brightview.com |
Good Answer Mr Ford, I see your NSY Training has stayed with you all these years. | ||
| Graham Ford (Grahamf) Member Username: Grahamf Post Number: 2 Registered: 08-2010 |
Paul Irrespective of the air & ducts, I would suspect that more than 1 individual handles the envelope in its journey from sender to recipient. Maybe someone with additional knowledge on the mail system could provide some info. However, I am not stating that a thousand people may have touched the envelope, just that if 1 person in the multitude did, how are we going to be able to establish who that was, to eliminate them from the enquiry, to leave the prints that may belong to you? Additionally, as I stated ”assuming that you deposited prints that are suitable to be developed” This was not my first post. Unfortunately for me my PC crashed while on Middle East travels and I had to re-register on Onin. Shame about NCIS. So unrealistic compared to the real world in that one individual covers all the forensic disciplines in the lab - "Jack of all trades, master of none" comes to mind. Well it is “Hollywood.” That said, it is one of the better shows in this arena. | ||
| paul teichner (Proctor) Member Username: Proctor Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2011 |
grahamf . . . you did bring up a couple points which i had not contemplated . . . i feel much relieved as well. however . . . there would not be thousands or even hundreds of postal employees . . . everything is done with compressed air and ducts. about the database . . . again, good call on your end. csi, good guess . . . actually, ncis. as to your questions, safely saying nope to each one . . . that would be paranoia in the extreme. yikes . . . this was your first post too . . . so, evidently, you created account just to answer my post. ummm . . . where were you, 12-27-1847 ? all jest aside . . . appreciate your input, grahamf. have good weekend all. | ||
| Graham Ford (Grahamf) Member Username: Grahamf Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2010 |
I think this is taking the paranoia to the extreme. If, as you say someone is going to run this through the FBI database, you must assume that the person sending it is probably a fingerprint expert (or has specific knowledge) that; 1. can process the envelope for latent prints (chemical process not “dust”) 2. adequately develop them and record them (digital photograph?) 3. has some superior knowledge in knowing what they have developed belongs to you and not the mail person who delivered the item, or collected the item for return and was not one of the thousands employed within the postal system that may have handled the envelope on its to/from journey 4. the person has some access to the FBI 10 print criminal record database 5. can make a match of any respondents that the system returns 6. can then access the biographical data of known address, SSN, etc., etc – albeit, they may have identified the Post Man!! All this is assuming that you deposited prints that are suitable to be developed – and they may not be. If you have this paranoia for the envelope, what do you do when you enter a store? Do you wipe down any item you remove from the shelf before placing it back having decided you did not want it, or do you wear gloves 24/7/365? Do you take the drinking glass home that you have been served with from the restaurant, just in case your supposed fiend gets prints & DNA from it? Me thinks a bit too much CSI (unless you have a record of course). | ||
| paul teichner (Proctor) Member Username: Proctor Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2011 |
my concern refers to my fingerprints on the envelope. this is the reason behind me subscribing to this forum. if the other members please . . . i wish to open this for discussion. i live in a new housing development . . . nobody lived in my house previously. yesterday, i received an envelope in postal-mail . . . had a complete return address (athens, ga) . . . it had complete mailing address (my address). everything on envelope was hand-written (analyzed duplicate characters) . . . postmark'd north-metro-ga. of course i am not in the habit of wearing latex gloves when picking up my postal-mail from exterior mailbox. upon realizing the intended addressee was someone else and not me . . . i quickly realized the quandary. now that my fingerprints are on the envelope . . . i can no longer write R.T.S. on envelope and give it back to postmaster. reason being, this could be a scam for identity theft. the person could know me from internet . . . sent fake postal envelope to my address . . . i would be stupid and send back R.T.S. . . . they would then receive the envelope back . . . and they could then dust for my fingerprints . . . and access fbi's database for record. has anyone else on this forum come across, or heard of, such devise ? am i just being overly paranoid ? i learned in the faq at this forum that prints, on paper, can last as long as 40 - 50 years. therefore . . . i cannot return envelope to sender . . . as was my original intent. |
