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     Matt Crowley (tube) Member Username: tube Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2006 |
Hi, Matt Crowley here. This is my first post, and I hope I'm not out of line posting a link to my own website, but It should be noted that cement casts made in fine, dry substrates in which fixatives are not employed can develop spontaneous surface features that can mimic the ordered ridges of real dermal ridges. I believe this is the prosaic explanation for the surface textures seen on one purported Bigfoot footprint cast known as the "Onion Mountain" cast, made by John Green in 1967. Jimmy Chilcutt has claimed the textures are dermal ridges, I believe the evidence suggests they are casting artifacts. http://www.orgoneresearch.com/photo.htm | ||
| Scott david Appleton (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: adsl-1-226-206.ard.bellsouth.net |
Hi, my name is Scotty. I'm in the 8th grade and doing a project on bigfoot. I heard about the dermal ridges rfom your sight. Thanks (Message edited by admin on October 13, 2006) | ||
| SgtFang |
Ernie, Apparently, the thing with bigfoot dermals is that the ridges tend to run lengthwise down the foot, unlike crosswise human dermals and diagonal primate dermals. Chilcutt said the only primate he ever came across with lengthwise dermals was the Howler Monkey. I'm still pretty new at this and would love to hear more! :-) -Sarge | ||
| Ernie Hamm |
Interesting deduction about "non-human, ridge flow pattern". There are a number of primates that have digital, palmar and plantar friction ridge patterns/flow that can be indistinguishable from human. | ||
| SgtFang |
Has anyone here heard about this subject? Det. Jimmy Chilcutt, recently retired from Conroe TX PD, contacted professor Jeff Meldrum a few years ago, after seeing a tv show on bigfoot where he heard them mention dermals in several track casts. His interest was piqued, so he contacted Meldrum and asked to examine the casts. Meldrum agreed wholeheartedly, they got together, and Chilcutt was turned loose with Meldrum's entire collection of casts. Chilcutt, in addition to being an exceptional latent examiner, also had an extensive background in non-human primate prints, from an independent study he conducted several years previously. When he arrived and began his examination, he had never had any previous interest in bigfoot, and was intending to debunk the whole thing. As he went from cast to cast, he did spot several clever fakes, many inconclusives, but most importantly he found several casts taken many years, and hundreds of miles apart, that exhibited a distinctive, MATCHING non-human, ridge flow pattern. This rocked his entire world, and he has since staked his reputation on there being a large unknown North American primate. Articles of interest- http://www.rfthomas.clara.net/news/debunk.html (Bigfoot website article) http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/10/1023_031023_bigfoot.html (National Geographic article) http://www.georgiabigfoot.com/ (Elkins Creek cast evaluation) So what does everyone think? Do any of the qualified people here want to offer second opinions on these casts? I can probably make the arrangements, or at least introductions. Thanks for reading! -Sarge SgtFang@aol.com Webservant Note: Lest we lead anyone astray with interesting stories about Latent Print Examiners determining that friction ridge detail was made by non-humans, it should be noted that although some of the police personnel mentioned are probably very skillful at detecting and recording crime scene finger and palm prints, none of the persons mentioned in the interesting stories (and declaring the impressions were non-human) was a Certified Latent Print Examiner. Over 750 Latent Print Examiners in America (and a few other countries) have achieved certification in the IAI's Latent Print Certification program. (Message edited by admin on October 13, 2006) |
