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Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 06:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Your posting indicates that a man was fingerprinted and you are concerned about the NCIC code differing from other classification information related to the man's fingerprints.

Short answer: That would not have caused a missed identification.

If that card (or, more probably, another set of fingerprints rolled at the same time as that card) was submitted to the FBI (and probably also submitted to the bureau of identification in the local state), each agency would have independently classified the card according to whatever local classification guidelines were in place... and basically would have ignored any classification markings already entered on a card.

It is not unusual for the NCIC code to differ from other classification information on a card, because the NCIC code only captures one possible classification, whereas other markings on a card (such as the reference line in the Henry classification and reference markings in individual finger blocks) annotate reference searches that encompass much more than just what is represented in the NCIC code.

Also, the date of birth, name, and other erroneous data entered on the card would NOT have precluded a fingerprint identification. The whole idea behind fingerprints is that an identification will still occur despite lies from the person being fingerprinted concerning their identity, despite any fraudulent identification documents they have with incorrect dates of birth or other reference numbers/names, etc.

The key question would be whether the fingerprints of the man were ever submitted to the FBI. A name search or NCIC query would be next to meaningless compared with a set of the man's fingerprints actually being submitted to the FBI's Identification Division (now called CJIS).
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Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am investigating the disappearance of a family member and her children from 30 years ago. At that time, the fingerprint expert in the city of disappearance classified the husband's finger prints. This classification had a number of differences from the NCIC numbers. Also, the husband's information in the city case indicated he was born in 1940. NCIC had the correct DOB as 1934. My question is this: if the city had requested a check on the fingerprints using their numbers and DOB what are the chances they would have in any way triggered a match with the NCIC information (or FBI, or whatever the main federal collection point was in 1975?

(Typos in above posting corrected by webservant on 27 Jun 06.)

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